what an agent provocateur looks like? Well, dear reader, wonder no more!
Yours truly has uncovered rare footage of not one, but TWO of these elusive creatures in the wild:
Seriously, these guys can't seriously expect us to take them seriously.
Seriously??
I don't even know where to begin. I could take the more serious route and present the Islamic argument on where they have strayed. Or I could simply treat them like Larry, Mo, and Curly and expose them for the stooges they really are.
Hmmmmm....that's a tough one.
I'll choose Entrapment Stooges for $300, Alex.
First off, the poor saps are trying their darndest to convince Joe SixPack of their Muslim extremist credentials. One of them swears his love for OBL, going so far as to declare that he loves OBL more than himself! (huh?!) And when the topic of Israel comes up, he's able to inject the famous Mahmoud Ahmadinejad line of wiping it off the map.
Impressive - both OBL and Ahmadinejad referenced in one interview. Bogeyman caricaturing has never been so easy. Oh wait, I forgot to mention their donning of the keffiyeh. No Muslim stereotype is complete without it!
Then his buddy goes on about how the Quran commands Muslims to terrorize all non-Muslims, even quoting the exact word in Arabic (with impressive pronunciation I might add). But I'm extremely disappointed that Agent McFly failed to quote the more fiery verse of 'slay them wherever you find them.'
Tsk, tsk. The researchers back at base must have slept on this one.
In their defense, they've done a respectable job in presenting themselves as 'real' Muslims to the larger Muslim community. With their smooth Arabic, requisite elements for the hardcore Islamic look (bushy beard, kufi and keffiyah), limited knowledge of the Quran and Hadith (I liked their twist on the famous hadith where Umar swears his love for the Prophet (saw) by stating that he loves the Prophet more than himself, but this goof instead swears by Allah that he loves OBL more than himself) - these guys present just enough a veneer of Muslim thugishness to bedazzle, bewilder, and be-stupefy* the masses.
Finally, one of them admits to having (coincidentally) known the young Muslims Americans involved in three separate cases dealing with plots to carry out terrorist acts. But he washes his hands of them when he declares "I would not do it myself."
Of course not. Your job is to entice, enlist, and entrap.
These jokers are the GWoT equivalent of IT honeypots - Fake computing systems designed to bait hackers so IT security surveillance teams can collect information on the latest hacking techniques.
The only fools who would take these schmucks seriously are naive Americans and even more naive young Muslims.
...(pause to think)...
Oh crap!
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*My made up word. I couldn't think of another word starting with 'be'
15 comments:
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The sad thing is, although I do feel where you are coming from and have had the exact same thoughts about their true "identity", I feel that they might actually be legit. Bottom line is that there ARE INDEED people out there that think just like them, speak the same rhetoric, espouse the same "platform" as they do. We mustn't trivialize this reality. It must be dealt with...
assalaamu alaikum. these guys almost made my breakfast come out. what a bunch of twits. as "anonymous" said, they need to be dealt with. the muslims in new york might wanna take a page out of the book of the brothers at the "call to islaam" center in Luton, UK. Have a look at what they did to the Hizbut Tahrir goof balls in their town. Please note that there is background to the situation in luton. The HT guys contributed to the bombing of the masjid in luton and put peoples lives at risk. that situation had to be dealt with quickly:
http://www.youtube.com/user/LutonIslamicCentre#p/u/10/qX7Oh7YJMGo
i dont think the link will take you directly there. but click on the link and have a look at "Muslims against extremism part 2"
Haha, I like the "Oh crap" part. Oh Crap is right, these lunatics do affect minds of Americans, who are clueless and Muslim kids, who are even more clueless.
In regards to what Anonymous said, there are definitely people out there like that and it shouldn't be trivialized and understated yet the conflict in society is that they are overstated!
People tend to give too much attention to people like this: and thus we feed their egos and in turn give them more followers.
There are definitely Christian Extremists, Radical Jews (Look at the Israeli Knesset) but somehow they are not on the frontiers of "terrorism".
Solution: I really think it serves best to ignore these people; like they don't exist. Because their actions don't affect our lives on a personal level (I mean I hope Obama won't start sending the Muslims to concentration camps after this).
Its a small (growing) minority. And the part that needs to be addressed is the growing part and that can be solved by given them minimal attention.
Thats my two-cents.
-The Muslim Kid-
I feel that seeing these "extremists" on TV should give us all an opportunity to question what it is that's making them so angry and emotional. I call folks like these "emotional reactionaries" because they're reacting to a perceived wrong committed against them or against the Ummah. Their reactions are not caused by a vacuum in society. Towards both American Muslims and nonMuslims (and people elsewhere) I would take the opportunity to point out that as long as America continues to pursue imperialistic foreign policies they'll face this type of backlash.
Asalamualaikum,
Shariq, the event you were refering to with Luton, UK, was actually with some other guys and not HT.
They were a group called Al-Muhajiroun, completely different in their approach to things, infact they were similar to the guys in the video. They were perfect for the media, so they were always given the limelight, on TV, in the national and local papers, yet there were maybe a maximum of 20 of these guys in the UK.
The stupid ideas and beleifs these guys shout were such that any dimwit who has even read a short biography of the Prophet(SAW)would not uphold them, let alone have the audacity to stand infront of a public audience and call to them.
Why would anybody with a brain cell take an approach that is clearly damaging the way people perceive Islam? I mean can they really be sincere? Allah knows best, but the Islamic Centre drove them off the streets and their activity has dropped dramatically. It's probably an approach most Muslim communities should take when they see these types of characters.
Good for nothings, literally.
AA- Anon,
"It must be dealt with..."
Really? Why is that? Why must we elevate this minority to such a high rank of importance and priority?
I agree with MuslimKid - the problem that these folks represent is overstated and frankly is not to be owned by the Muslim community.
They are a criminal issue - not a theological one. Let the police deal with them, not our Imams.
Deviants will ALWAYS exist - since the time of the Sahaba. They have existed throughout Islamic history and the only way to deal with them is to marginalize them.
Instead we are falling in line behind the media and government bigwigs in repeating the false mantra that terrorism IS a big problem in the Muslim community and WE must deal with it.
No sir...not me. Not my problem.
AA- RCHOUDH,
"I would take the opportunity to point out that as long as America continues to pursue imperialistic foreign policies they'll face this type of backlash."
While I somewhat agree on the logic - reminding people of the long list of America's foreign policy sins in the Muslim world - but there is a time and a place for that - and in the aftermath of some tragic event just isn't it.
It's like kicking a man when he's down. It's like saying 'I told you so.'
Muslims need to be bigger than that.
You're back!!
Yay :)
As-Salaamu 'alaikum,
Islamasaurus is right; these goons that caused all the trouble in Luton are the remnants of al-Muhajiroun, although they disbanded that group several years ago. They currently operate as Islam4UK. They are often confused with HT because, in the 1990s, they operated in London as a branch of HT, but HT objected to their antics, so Omar Bakri took his gang out of HT and formed al-Muhajiroun. However, HT are a much quieter, intellectual, political group.
I am with Luton Muslims on this one. These are our problems because even though most Muslims don't take them seriously, others do.
AA
The fact that they are still out there preaching this is proof enough that it is being sanctioned by someone.
Mushroom cloud over Israel? lol - why don't people realise that bombing 'Israel' means bombing Jerusalem - Al-Aqsa - the third holiest site in Islam.
Cheap tricks any teenager could see through.
Saqib
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