tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post6279002347770080592..comments2023-10-31T15:54:05.715+03:00Comments on Naeem's Blog: When Muslims IntermarryNaeem:http://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-35674029891018018352013-09-19T22:33:02.344+03:002013-09-19T22:33:02.344+03:00ASAK Naeem. A big problem for Muslims in the West....ASAK Naeem. A big problem for Muslims in the West. The parents are busy `protecting' their sons and daughters from Muslims. In the end they lose everything, and make their children's life miserable.<br /><br />In a country where Muslims are few and spread out, the society has to catch up and make it easier for people to meet and marry within Muslims.manashttp://wishsubmission.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-81690380847093794572013-07-10T03:29:06.464+03:002013-07-10T03:29:06.464+03:00@Naeem: I'm a little late to this discussion, ...@Naeem: I'm a little late to this discussion, but I'm sure you are aware that I am unfortunate proof of this theory. My first wife was non-muslim and as a result my kids with her have pretty much abandoned the Islamic religion.<br /><br />My current wife strongly discourages any interaction with our new child with his siblings. My wife thinks my children from my previous marriage would set a very bad example for them and she would simply prefer that our son not even know about the existence of his other siblings. In fact, we are currently working on acquiring dual citizenship for our child in order to more familiarize him with his mother's culture<br /><br />GregAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-29703371033759306602013-06-23T20:47:50.987+03:002013-06-23T20:47:50.987+03:00Excellent discussion. Couldnt agree more with DL a...Excellent discussion. Couldnt agree more with DL and Br Naeem.<br /><br />I feel that many muslims in the west are too surrounded by the problem to fully see it. Allah surely guides whom He wills in any land but for me to reside in the west currently knowing there are better environments out there and having that choice would be ridiculously negligent.<br /><br />Having said that for sure not everyone can move and thats not what we are talking of anyway because Allah does not burden a soul more than it can bare<br /> And for sure there are people there who are there solely for spreading message of submission to God and I have faith Allah will take care of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-60963653298482105852013-04-26T22:37:55.191+03:002013-04-26T22:37:55.191+03:00AA- JD,
In addition to what DL said so eloquently...AA- JD,<br /><br />In addition to what DL said so eloquently, I wanted to add this:<br /><br />I *do* believe that we have a responsibility towards our future generations because we have knowledge about the inherent dangers posed by settling down in the West. On the other hand, my parents, I believe, will not be judged in the same way - since they had no idea about the long-term ramifications of migrating westward.<br /><br />With information, such as the data I presented in my post, at our disposal it would be negligent for us to turn a blind eye and simply wave it off as 'not my concern'.<br /><br />Just as you would be blamed for the financial ruin of your future progeny if you were to voluntarily settle down somewhere like Greece, where your offspring would curse you for not having known any better than to migrate to a bankrupt nation - similarly you should be blamed for the spiritual ruin of your future progeny for having *chosen* to settle in a land known for its spiritual bankruptcy.Naeem:https://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-39553852498761733782013-04-26T11:29:42.502+03:002013-04-26T11:29:42.502+03:00Apologies if this sounds harsh, JDsg, but regardin...Apologies if this sounds harsh, JDsg, but regarding future generations, I think it’s selfish – and even unprophetic – to only be concerned with the present. We should learn from Ibrahim a.s. – who made dua for his future generations. We need to always make dua for those future generations down the line. Nouman Ali Khan spoke about this, and cited this example – also saying that Allah didn’t give him blanket acceptance of the dua – there was something in His response about exceptions (Surah Al-Baqarah v 124).<br />There’s always the chance of deviation down the line – as the world deteriorates. But our job right now is to do what we can: through our actions for our immediate offspring, and dua for those that’ll follow beyond our lifetimes.<br />As for intermarriage, here in Cape Town – which has a huge Muslim community but is still within a non-Muslim country, one imam has said that the ulama here generally discourage intermarriage because the overwhelming culture and society out there is non-Muslim. In a Muslim majority environment, that non-Muslim spouse may well be influenced to eventually accept Islam. But in our society, it’s the other way around – because the odds are against us.<br />I’ve known several kids who were the results of intermarriage, and it seems to have led to identity crises in them – in no cases resulting in strong Islamic practice (one case saw the father leaving Islam completely). I’m not saying it’s impossible for it to work – it probably has in many cases. But it’s dangerous if the authority figure – the father – isn’t strong in deen, and doesn’t have a strong Islamic support system around him.<br />At the same time, we can’t take a purely legalistic view. We can’t come across as being insular and narrow-minded – sticking to our own kind and rejecting other faiths. That’s not only ‘bad PR’ for Islam, but also against the objective of da’wah<br /><br /> We’re supposed to spread the deen, and intermarriage can be a superb form of da’wah – not just for the spouse that’ll later revert, but for that spouse’s original family and friends who see and admire the change after they revert.Dreamlifehttp://dreamlife.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-46414796603793830822013-04-26T06:40:43.638+03:002013-04-26T06:40:43.638+03:00That may be true, but can the same be said for two...<i>That may be true, but can the same be said for two or three generations down the line?</i><br /><br />Sorry to say, but two or three generations down the line is not my concern, just as it would not have been my great-grandfather's concern whether or not I had become a Muslim. My only concern at this time is the Islam of myself, my wife, and our daughter, insha'allah. Should my daughter have their own children, it is their own responsibility and that of the parents, insha'allah.JDsghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735390644321868222noreply@blogger.com