tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post2351975082728660011..comments2023-10-31T15:54:05.715+03:00Comments on Naeem's Blog: Time is of the Essence...or is it?Naeem:http://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-75519689005763086442008-07-02T09:18:00.000+03:002008-07-02T09:18:00.000+03:00Lovely, thought-provoking post. How many times hav...Lovely, thought-provoking post. How many times have I said, "Don't those people know it's 8 o'clock at night? Why are they coming over now??!!" instead of just greeting them warmly.UmmFarouqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05366325597455956128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-48457330289376168012008-07-02T04:51:00.000+03:002008-07-02T04:51:00.000+03:00AA- Anon,"From what i recall, In the quran, it say...AA- Anon,<BR/><BR/>"From what i recall, In the quran, it says to knock and if you are not answered, then turn back."<BR/><BR/>Dropping by unannounced doesn't mean simply walking into someone's home without knocking.<BR/><BR/>I'm talking about the bad habit of only going to visit when invited. Why should I visit you only after I'm invited?<BR/><BR/>Why can't I call (to make sure you're home and you have time) and tell you that I'm coming over?Naeem:https://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-40662308429578021242008-07-02T04:47:00.000+03:002008-07-02T04:47:00.000+03:00AA- Suroor,"Pakistanis and Arabs are LAZY (in caps...AA- Suroor,<BR/><BR/>"Pakistanis and Arabs are LAZY (in caps)."<BR/><BR/>Wow, you too? What makes you say this? <BR/><BR/>Being lazy and being unprofessional are two different things. Also being lazy and having a laid back attitude are also different.<BR/><BR/>"I feel my privacy is invaded when someone drops by unannounced."<BR/><BR/>As much as I believe that its the right of my family and friends to visit me unannounced, they must also know its my right not to answer the door. That's only fair.<BR/><BR/>Plus, my understanding of 'unannounced' isn't ringing the doorbell at midnight, without calling.<BR/><BR/>There is a balance between that extreme and never visiting someone unless formally invited.Naeem:https://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-29101389615078725462008-07-01T05:33:00.000+03:002008-07-01T05:33:00.000+03:00I agree. I think it is rude to drop by unannounced...I agree. I think it is rude to drop by unannounced. From what i recall, In the quran, it says to knock and if you are not answered, then turn back. <BR/><BR/>So basically, nowadays we have phones. it is proper courtesy to call before going to someone's house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-20401882346908303702008-06-30T22:02:00.000+03:002008-06-30T22:02:00.000+03:00I agree with most of what you say here. Its good t...I agree with most of what you say here. Its good to remember that certainity lies with God alone. I also like how you have explained your thinking and acceptance of Arab timings. But I really think that South Asians and Arabs are very, very unpunctual. It is one thing to know something can't be done in exact time and another to dely things because you are lazy. Pakistanis and Arabs are LAZY (in caps). <BR/><BR/>I feel my privacy is invaded when someone drops by unannounced. I am in my house gowns and I feel very upset. In a house with women guests must announce their arrival. Also they must realise that children have rountines that should not be disturbed. Unfortunately Pakistanis have a problem there.Suroorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07151400258859526990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-52279357182893580922008-06-29T17:38:00.000+03:002008-06-29T17:38:00.000+03:00i dont like fruit chaat :)i dont like fruit chaat :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-43430593974184380332008-06-29T16:23:00.000+03:002008-06-29T16:23:00.000+03:00AA- Ma-teacher,"I think you're mixing apples and o...AA- Ma-teacher,<BR/><BR/>"I think you're mixing apples and oranges, sorry to get all fruity on you."<BR/><BR/>No prob. I like fruit salad, especially fruit chaat.<BR/><BR/>"There is nothing in being mindful of time, every second of it and measuring it precisely (by the way, Cs-133 sounds like a very "nature-centric" way to measure time) that necessitates being exclusionary of God (err, Allah)-consciousness."<BR/><BR/>True, time is what you make of it, as the saying goes. But the case has become that modern man has created a life centered more around time (among other material things) instead of God, err Allah.<BR/><BR/>And if CS-133 sounds natural to you, then so must neon and xenon. So does that mean when you watch a 50-inch plasma screen (in which those two gases are key components) you're becoming one with nature? :-)<BR/><BR/>"People in Pakistan or other traditional societies where laisse-faire prevails are just plain lazy and irreverant of the resources God has provided them."<BR/><BR/>Dear teacher, please expand my horizons. How have you come to the conclusion that Pakistanis are simply lazy and unresourceful? I'm assuming you are a Pakistani or else you wouldn't be so casual yet firm with your critique. :-)<BR/><BR/>(Wait, you're probably Indian...heh) :-P<BR/><BR/>"Ditto for visiting unannounced. I have experienced that. To some levels it is good. But beyond a certain level it is disruptive, disrespectful and downright negative."<BR/><BR/>Oh c'mon bro! You sound like some uptight, prissy elite. <BR/><BR/>Pray tell, what is that 'certain level' beyond which the unannounced visit becomes 'Disruptive, disrespectiful, and downright negative'?! <BR/><BR/>"Likewise, there is nothing about looking at your Seiko for time that is enslaving. Very time-conscious people have a good time too."<BR/><BR/>When I said enslaving, I didn't mean being miserable. People have become enslaved by their schedules and their obsession with time, so much so that life is passing them by.<BR/><BR/>My point is let's not be so tied down by time (minutes, seconds, hours) such that when things get late or behind schedule, everyone is in an uproar.<BR/><BR/>"Oops, I have already spent 108 seconds writing this and my budget was approved for only 120"<BR/><BR/>It took you only 108 seconds to write your comment?! Impressive teacher sahib. I'm going on hour #2 with this reply. :-PNaeem:https://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-66083839080100272992008-06-29T05:19:00.000+03:002008-06-29T05:19:00.000+03:00AA- Coolred,Good point about keeping one's appoint...AA- Coolred,<BR/><BR/>Good point about keeping one's appointments. A commitment is a commitment and breaking that promise (or blatantly bending it) is bad etiquettes.<BR/><BR/>However, there is a difference between keeping one’s word wrt to a scheduled time (good) and living a life obsessed with time and schedules (not so good). <BR/><BR/>The latter leads to a mechanical execution of life, to a lifeless list of tasks and appointments. <BR/><BR/>When we disengage from such a lifestyle, life becomes so much more stress-free and organic, as opposed to the manufactured life most of us currently subsist in.Naeem:https://www.blogger.com/profile/15397380149160556040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-11093251882894650702008-06-29T05:07:00.000+03:002008-06-29T05:07:00.000+03:00I think you're mixing apples and oranges, sorry to...I think you're mixing apples and oranges, sorry to get all fruity on you. <BR/><BR/>Time-consiousness does not necessarily come with slavery to time. And laissez-faire is not without serious (indirect) costs, some of which you have alluded to already.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing in being mindful of time, every second of it and measuring it precisely (by the way, Cs-133 sounds like a very "nature-centric" way to measure time) that necessitates being exclusionary of God (err, Allah)-consciousness. <BR/><BR/>People in Pakistan or other traditional societies where laisse-faire prevails are just plain lazy and irreverant of the resources God has provided them. It is of the adaab of Islam to not waste time. We're told we will be asked to account for every famto second of it.<BR/><BR/>Ditto for visiting unannounced. I have experienced that. To some levels it is good. But beyond a certain level it is disruptive, disrespectful and downright negative. <BR/><BR/>Likewise, there is nothing about looking at your Seiko for time that is enslaving. Very time-conscious people have a good time too. <BR/><BR/>Oops, I have already spent 108 seconds writing this and my budget was approved for only 120. So I must bid adieu. Oh, please don't feel bad for me :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8268156244556916801.post-86081228610979520952008-06-28T15:07:00.000+03:002008-06-28T15:07:00.000+03:00Ive gotten somewhat use to the idea that Arab timi...Ive gotten somewhat use to the idea that Arab timing will never coincide with 21st century timing...so I can practice patience to a certain extent...however many times my patience is stretched beyond limits when promises of "I'll be there in 20 minutes" really means...I havent actually left the house yet...I could still be another hour or more.....<BR/><BR/>My beef is not with the lax attitude about time...its more about "mean what you say"...if you mean you will take an hour...then say you will take an hour....this will do away with my growing frustration...my waning patience...and my desire to exact revenge when you eventually show up.Coolred38https://www.blogger.com/profile/07502256532402473484noreply@blogger.com